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Guilllaume,

Thanks for this great post.

I agree with you, 90 % of PR guys doesn't understand bloggers and Web 2.0 World

But some are smart, maybe we can make a post about the best PR guys or girls, will be more positive stuff !

have a good day

Claude

Very good post, Guillaume. and brave of you to name-and-shame the PR companies and also reproduce their pitch.

As for our experiment, we have changed enough elements in each press release we produce to ensure that it is slightly different and the Google Police do not frown on us unnecessarily.

The feedback we have received from the industry to this idea has been overwhelmingly positive. Many are fed up with the cut-and-paste machines of some other media providers who are passing off press releases as "news". it isn't.

therefore our idea is to reproduce press releases in full, and they are clearly marked as such, while the interesting follow-ups and analysis are where we can concentrate our efforts as journalists.

Guillaume, I think my rants are rubbing off on you! :)

It's quite simple in my eyes - PR companies think that bloggers are easy targets because we'll write about any old crap. They do not realise that we have a niche. If they took just five minutes to read our blog and learn our name and our niche and send PR accordingly then they would get a more welcome reception.

I personally don't mind receiving PR emails, I have a filter which picks them up in Outlook and puts them in a folder, then once a week or a month, I will go through quickly and see if any of them are interesting enough to mention.

99% of the time I bin them.

Kevin recently sent me a post on how 'tech blogging has failed you' by Robert Scoble. One of its points was that PR companies are now hitting bloggers and news sites with the same press releases - with the result, in Scoble's eyes, that the ground between established media and independent blogs in the tech space had narrowed.

It would be a shame if something similar happened in travel, so good to see independent blogs rejecting it. To be honest we 'proper media' bloggers are in a similar situation - if I relied on the press releases I get I'd become indistiguishable from Travel Weekly's news pages.

The PR Precision thing is a horrible idea - IMO it comes from marketing depts who want a piece of blogging, but are a) unable to look beyond the paid advertising model and b) haven't clocked that most bloggers aren't money motivated.

I'm work in PR for a hotel company and I was surprised to hear about your offer from PR Precision. We would never asked a blogger, or any other media outlet for that matter, for paid coverage. At that point one could argue that it's not even publicity anymore but rather advertising. These large high-end PR firms don't operate like the rest of us so don't rule out the whole batch based on a few bad apples.

Guillaume:

First of all: are you in on the WTM Bloggers meet up?

Secondly: Yes I get a lot of the same PR spam from a couple of nitwits that I use to file vertically (ie delete it)

I would just keep blogging and not worry about PR companies. Blogging is a very good way to become an authority in your industry.

@ Guido

There's 11 confirmed and 17 maybe's so far on the Facebook event, plus six maybe's via email. I've noticed Nathan and Guillaume haven't confirmed either way yet! ;) I'm going to update the Facebook event this weekend.

So far we have three companies interested in sponsoring the meet-up, which is great!


Thanks to all for your comments. I knew this post will create a bit of controversy in the community!

@Claude - sometimes you have to be more negative than positive. Not sure I will list the best PR companies. But I know some good PR individuals.

@Kevin - Good call for Travolution. And happy to hear the trade like this new approach. Maybe you should create a RSS feed for only Press Releases.

@Darren - thanks for the tip. Need to configure that in my Outlook.

@Nathan - Yes I read this post as well from Scoble. Great and brave article from him. I also heard that famous bloggers in France want to be declassified from TOP100 most read blogs because they are fed up with spam and irrelevant comments.

@Joe - you absolutely right. I am not putting every PR company in the same basket. I know some good PR companies with talented individuals.

@Happy Hotelier - 1/ yes, I need to register to WTM though. 2/ ditto here.

@ Hotel Motel Furniture - thanks for the tip

@ Darren - will confirm later this week

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I've had people asking me to write articles for their own blog/web site for no money at all...

I'm not surprised by this approach. I'm glad that you fight for the integrity of your blog.

Hi Guillaume
I have only just found your site - I found it on Travel Rants which I am a fan of.
As a company that does send out press releases (but only ever personalised ones to our contacts) it's interesting to hear your views.
We have an in-house small PR team of two and I would hate to see them sending out releases that were not relevant to the people who receive them.

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